Barnes Noble visar upp Microsofts patent rörande Androids intrång.|Mobiltelefoner & Surfplattor|Forum|Nordichardware

Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
The forums are currently locked and only available for read only access
sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
Barnes Noble visar upp Microsofts patent rörande Androids intrång.
Avatar
Svensken
Kommer du hit ofta?
Medlem
Forum Posts: 412
Member Since:
October 14, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
November 16, 2011 - 11:52 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Här är en nyhet om Microsofts patent gällande Androids patentintrång. Visar sig att de flesta patenten är från 90 talet och är saker som finns i både Android och en massa andra system.

"By now most of us have heard that Microsoft has entered into licensing agreements with a good deal of Android hardware vendors. HTC, Motorola, and others are forking out undisclosed amounts for each phone or tablet they ship with Android loaded on it. Though no one is saying just how much this "fee" is, many have thrown around the figure of $15 per device. That essentially means that your Android-powered phone is costing you $15 more than it would if Microsoft didn't have those patents... but what are those patents?

Part of those license agreements must be a secrecy clause, because no one is talking about the patents. Until now.

Barnes and Noble uses Android to power their Nook line of eBook readers. Microsoft wants a piece of their pie, too, but B&N is fighting back, and exposing the patents that Microsoft says Android is infringing upon.

Here's their abbreviated list, and their rebuttal to the patents in question:

’372 Patent (Web Browser Background Image Loading)
The ’372 patent was filed April 18, 1996. Very generally, the patent relates to an outmoded system for retrieving an electronic document like a webpage that includes an embedded background image, which may have a bearing on very old web browsers connected to the Internet via slow, dial-up connections, but has little application in the context of improved, modern Internet connections...

’522 Patent (Operating System Provided Tabs)
The ’522 patents was filed December 13, 1994. The patent relates to a single, simple tool provided by an operating system (such as Windows) that allows applications running on that operating system to have a common look and feel. Since operating systems provide many such tools, the patent amounts to nothing more than a trivial design choice. In particular, and despite the fact that this concept is in the prior art, the ’522 patent’s method allows for the creation of tabs. The tabs are analogous to dividers like those found in a notebook or to labels found in a file cabinet, and allow the user of an application to navigate between multiple pages of information in the same window by clicking on the tabs….

’551 Patent (Electronic Selection with "Handles")
On its face, the ’551 patent purports to claim priority back to a November 10, 2000 filing date. Generally, the ’551 patent relates to another simple and trivial feature that is not only disclosed by numerous prior art references, but is certainly not central to an operating system like Android — selecting or highlighting text or graphics within an electronic document. The patent provides that a user selects a word or phrase, for example, by tapping on a touch screen display or clicking with a mouse. Such a selection may be shown by highlighting the selected word or phrase. The user is presented with "selection handles" on one or both ends of the selected areas. These "selection handles" can be moved by the user to highlight more or less text or graphics...

’233 Patent (Annotation of Electronic Documents)
The ’233 patent was filed December 7, 1999. Like the other Microsoft patents, the ’233 patent relates only to one small feature that has long been present in the prior art and is not central to Android or any other operating system. More specifically, the patent generally relates to a method for capturing annotations made in an electronic document (like an electronic book), without changing the electronic document itself...

’780 Patent (Web Browser Loading Status Icons)
The ’780 patent was not filed until May 6, 1997, long after the first web browser came to market. In addition to being late to the game, the patent is directed to a very simple and obvious feature — a temporary graphic element or status icon that is displayed to indicate that a hypermedia browser (such as a web browser) is loading content. When a browser is intended for use with a portable computer system with a limited display size, the ’780 patent notes that it is desirable to maximize the browser’s content display area (the portion of the browser that actually displays a website, not the menus, toolbars, or buttons). Thus, the patent makes a trivial design choice and provides that the graphic element or loading status icon is to be temporarily displayed in the content display area of the browser as opposed to a separate space such as the browser’s menu bar, tool bar, or a separate status bar...

There are a few other patents involved, but they pretty much fall into the same category: prior art.

"Prior art" is one standard by which the validity of patents are measured. If it can be proven then there was the same (or significantly similar) innovation prior to filing for the patent, the patent may be thrown out.

But B&N isn't simply standing their ground, they're fighting back. They've petitioned for an antitrust investigation into Microsoft centering around these patents, and whether Microsoft is essentially extorting their competitors by forcing them into licensing agreements under the threat of litigation.

If B&N wins, there is a chance that these some (or all) of the patents will be thrown out. If that's the case it could give grounds to the licensees to renegotiate (or cancel) their licensing agreements with Microsoft.

While end users likely won't see a price reduction of $15 per device, they should see greater innovation and resources given to Android-powered phones and tablets"

Källa: http://pocketnow.com/android/what-pa...#disqus_thread

Bedöm själva om ni tycker detta är giltiga patent.

Avatar
Andreas Galistel
Member
Medlem
Forum Posts: 16287
Member Since:
November 27, 2003
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1271626
November 16, 2011 - 6:16 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Alla andra vek sig av någon anledning. HTC är inget litet företag. Jag tror inte det är riktigt så enkellt, men givetvis hoppas jag på att MS förlorar detta.

Avatar
Sebbe
Member
Medlem
Forum Posts: 5039
Member Since:
June 11, 2001
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1271651
November 17, 2011 - 2:21 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

’551 Patent (Electronic Selection with "Handles") - Skulle innebära att microsoft i princip har patent på var enda färgpunkt som skärmen visar. Så fort du markerar text så har microsoft patent på texten. Dom övriga innebär att microsoft i princip har patent på muspekaren och 780 som i princip tar patent på ikonen när den laddar filer. Om problemet är ikonen så gäller det bara att vara inovativ och skapa en ny bild. Annars så skulle microsoft äga definitonen av laddning, och det skulle skapa problem inte bara för android utan även för apple, intel, AMD och seagate om man ska hårddra det hela. Detta blir då ett hårdvaruproblem.

Avatar
Jacob Hugosson
Kommer du hit ofta?
Medlem
Forum Posts: 548
Member Since:
September 9, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1271655
November 17, 2011 - 4:04 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Medan det är intressant tror jag inte det är så enkelt precis som Delph1 säger. Det är jättelätt för oss att sitta här och dra våra egna slutsatsar utifrån vad Barnes & Nobles säger, utan att egentligen ha all information svart på vitt.

Forum Timezone: Europe/Stockholm
Most Users Ever Online: 1030
Currently Online:
Guest(s) 626
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
Andreas Galistel: 16287
Jonas Klar: 15897
ilg@dd: 10810
Nyhet: 10607
Mind: 10550
Ctrl: 10355
Gueno: 9881
Guest: 9344
Snorch: 8881
Callister: 8468
Newest Members:
PetrbonFU PetrbonFU
Karine Bembry
Dolores Mcdaniels
Anibal McLeish
Francisca Alt
Alfie Everhart
Lester Huitt
Orlando Jorgensen
Mikki Lundgren
Dakota Kozlowski
Forum Stats:
Groups: 11
Forums: 59
Topics: 146630
Posts: 1300967

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2
Members: 79425
Moderators: 0
Admins: 11
Administrators: nordicadmin, Henrik Berntsson, Anton Karmehed, Carl Holmberg, Joel Oscarsson, Mikael Linnér, Mikael Schwartz, Andreas Paulsson, Nickebjrk, Mattias Pettersson, EmxL